So you are outside Russia and want to donate some money (i.e. your monthly membership) to Civil Hackers' School. You can do it by two ways, useing Bank Transfer or Western Union system. Remember, that all overhead for transfering $25 (assosiate membership) or $50 (full membership) monthly fee is on yours.
Overhead can be up to $30, so consider paying for several months at a time. After you pay us once, we can send you list of other students in your area, so that you can join the collective transfer and build your local branch of Civil Hackers' School someday.
Also be sure you understand legal status of money you send to us.
You can transfer US dollars from outside Russia. They are expected to reach us in a week. Show the following to the clerk in your bank:
Romanenkova Tatiana Victorovna Account 42301840000000000023 with "TRANSPORTNY" BANK, Moscow Correspondent Account 04411501 with BANKERS TRUST COMPANY, NEW YORK, N.Y., USA (SWIFT: BKTRUS33) CHIPS 384324
Be sure to carefully copy all digits, save all papers, this is money. We are taking no responsibility for your mistakes, you can loose money easily by trasfering them on a wrong account.
Western Union is much safer and quicker money transfer system. Money will reach us in 15 minutes. You can pay today and join our practice tomorrow! This international interbank service will cost you about $15 overhead for each money transfer to Russia.
Destination(city,country): Moscow, Russia Receiver: first name Olga Andreevna last name Bassarguina address 20-5-33 Nagornaya st. Moscow Russia 113186 Will the receiver have valid identification ? -- YES
Send e-mail to firstname.lastname@example.org
Russian reality is funny, money relationships between private people are quite new and can make western people go crazy. Here I will describe one way, that permits us to make all the things as expected in hackers world.
Money, that you transfer, are donation to a private person, my friend, that helps me to organize my work. You must be aware, and ready to sign all legal papers in necessity, that your money is a gift, donation or sacrifice to this person because you like the things she and her friends does and wants her and her friends to spend that money on these things or whatever they wants.
This also means that we have no legal responsibility before you how we will use this money, and if we give you something in back, it is nothing more, than just our donation to you. Our organization is volounteer-based and can not guarantee anything, may be because of very complex and huge new Russian taxes, ;-) that makes, even after "communism", every honest private business here almost impossible. :-/
If you do not trust us, still want to have some service from us, and be defended by local Russian law, consult us personally by e-mail. We will calculate price for our services. This is expected to be three or four times more, than just regular donations, that are not force us to do anything for you by Russian law. We have not written this digits, because we are expecting for many people knowledge is better than assurence, based on Russian police system.
Also, remember, that our practice is not education. Although I work in government educational system and have registered "Hackers' Art BASIC" educational program, it will take time to licence everything. Furthermore, it is impossible to "educate" a hacker and there is no such registered in government list profession or science as "hacking".
You must be assure and write in all papers, that you just practice together computer art with those, who know more, than you, helping each other to reach perfection in computer art.
Summary: donation and together practice, in no means education and paying for it! Do not fool yourself, do not fool Russian government!
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